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03/04/2021 08:00 AM House TRIBAL AFFAIRS

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-- Testimony <Invitation Only> --
                     ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                 
            HOUSE SPECIAL COMMITTEE ON TRIBAL AFFAIRS                                                                         
                          March 4, 2021                                                                                         
                            8:02 a.m.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Tiffany Zulkosky, Chair                                                                                          
Representative Dan Ortiz                                                                                                        
Representative Zack Fields                                                                                                      
Representative Geran Tarr                                                                                                       
Representative Mike Cronk                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
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PRESENTATION:  LAYERS OF GOVERNANCE                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
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WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
FRAN HOUSTON                                                                                                                    
Tribal Spokesperson                                                                                                             
Auk Kwaan                                                                                                                       
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Welcomed committee to Native tribal lands                                                                
before the presentation on Layers of Governance.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
RICHARD PETERSON                                                                                                                
President                                                                                                                       
Central Council Tlingit & Haida Indian Tribes of Alaska                                                                         
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Offered introductory remarks ahead of the                                                                
presentation on Layers of Governance.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
BARBARA BLAKE                                                                                                                   
Director                                                                                                                        
Alaska Native Policy Center                                                                                                     
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION  STATEMENT:     Presented  a  PowerPoint   and  answered                                                             
questions during the presentation on Layers of Governance.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
LIZ MEDICINE CROW                                                                                                               
President/CEO                                                                                                                   
First Alaskans Institute                                                                                                        
Kake, Alaska                                                                                                                    
POSITION  STATEMENT:     Presented  a  PowerPoint   and  answered                                                             
questions during the presentation on Layers of Governance.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:02:46 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  TIFFANY ZULKOSKY  called  the House  Special Committee  on                                                             
Tribal Affairs  meeting to  order at  8:02 a.m.   Representatives                                                               
Ortiz,  Cronk, Tarr  and Zulkosky  were  present at  the call  to                                                               
order.   Representative  Fields  arrived as  the  meeting was  in                                                               
progress.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
^PRESENTATION:  Layers of Governance                                                                                            
              PRESENTATION:  Layers of Governance                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:03:42 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR ZULKOSKY  announced that the  only order of  business would                                                               
be a presentation on layers of governance.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:04:05 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
FRAN HOUSTON,  Tribal Spokesperson, Auk Kwaan,  Big Dipper House,                                                               
welcomed committee to Native tribal lands.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:06:54 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
RICHARD  PETERSON, President,  Central  Council  Tlingit &  Haida                                                               
Indian Tribes  of Alaska, pointed  out the irony in  still asking                                                               
for tribal  recognition when  it was so  central to  the everyday                                                               
lives of  Native Alaskans.   There were 229  federally recognized                                                               
tribes in Alaska, he stated, making  up half the number of tribes                                                               
in the  US, and which  were still struggling to  gain recognition                                                               
in  Alaska.    "Healthy  tribes make  healthy  communities,"  Mr.                                                               
Peterson offered,  stating this  has been proven  by way  of top-                                                               
tier  health care  and  education systems,  as  well as  critical                                                               
infrastructure, especially for rural Alaska.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:10:30 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BARBARA  BLAKE, Director,  Alaska Native  Policy Center,  began a                                                               
presentation   on  layers   of   governance   in  Alaska   Native                                                               
Communities.   She mentioned schools  often fail to teach  to the                                                               
complexity  of the  system and  "everyone who  leads all  the way                                                               
up."                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
8:13:58 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LIZ  MEDICINE  CROW,  President/CEO,  First  Alaskans  Institute,                                                               
thanked  legislature  for  the existence  of  the  House  Special                                                               
Committee on Tribal Affairs.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:15:53 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
A video was shown from 8:15:53 a.m. to 8:16:49 a.m.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
8:17:25 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  BLAKE  explained the  video  exemplified  the way  in  which                                                               
decision making  without the input  of Alaska  Native communities                                                               
could be unforeseen.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS.  MEDICINE CROW  said policy  makers needed  to be  especially                                                               
aware  of unconscious  bias when  making decisions  that affected                                                               
Native people  and whole  communities.   She added  sometimes not                                                               
only challenges, but opportunities, were missed.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:20:12 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  BLAKE shared  stewardship by  Native people  went back  10K+                                                               
years,  and  the  notion   of  Native  "geographic  intelligence"                                                               
related  to   names  being  tied   to  descriptions   of  places.                                                               
Earthquake  Park in  Anchorage translated  to "ground  not to  be                                                               
built upon,"  she gave as  an example.   Maybe Anchorage  was not                                                               
the best  place to set  up camp, she added,  since it was  just a                                                               
filled-in swamp.   The  names gave  warnings about  location, but                                                               
also created history  and legacy, and described  the abundance of                                                               
a  place.   There were  over 20  distinct cultures  within Alaska                                                               
tribes, and  it was important to  be aware of the  differences in                                                               
both cultures and linguistic groups, she imparted.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:24:08 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. MEDICINE CROW added people  born in Alaska were responding to                                                               
their own unique  places.  It is  a strength for the  state to be                                                               
able to tap into that diversity, she said.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS.  BLAKE imparted  the three  sovereigns delineated  as tribes,                                                               
state, and  federal did not  work against each other,  but rather                                                               
created three  times the opportunities  to help  communities "get                                                               
everything right."   Each sovereign provided  services which were                                                               
complementary to the  others, she said.  She pointed  out each of                                                               
the 229 tribes  in Alaska was a distinct nation  unto itself, and                                                               
the  inherent  sovereignty  of tribes,  and  tribes'  ability  to                                                               
govern themselves, existed prior to contact.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:29:55 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. MEDICINE  CROW pointed  out tribes in  Alaska were  not "over                                                               
half" of all tribes in the US, but almost half.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS.  BLAKE mentioned  the  notion of  "implicit  bias," and  that                                                               
knowledge   systems   encountered    by   children   dated   back                                                               
generations.  In a similar  way, value systems were "pooled" when                                                               
it  was  time  to  lead.   In  Alaska,  connections  to  hunting,                                                               
fishing,  and gathering  were  not severed  as  happened to  some                                                               
Native peoples  in the Lower  48, she mentioned.   The connection                                                               
to the  land is the  same as it  was to Native  Alaskan ancestors                                                               
seven  generations prior,  she said;  value systems  were carried                                                               
forward into today's context.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
8:33:03 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. MEDICINE CROW  mentioned so much more could be  known about a                                                               
place if  the Native names  were used, because  the "generational                                                               
wingspan" of indigenous knowledge would exist therein.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS.  BLAKE  showed  slide  9 from  the  Alaska  Native  Knowledge                                                               
Network, a breakdown of the  20-plus distinct cultural groups and                                                               
languages  which   comprised  the   Native  peoples   of  Alaska,                                                               
especially  emphasizing  the  contributions of  the  Tlingit  and                                                               
Athabascan nations.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
8:39:43 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  MEDICINE  CROW added  there  was  always an  opportunity  to                                                               
support reclamation of Alaska Native  languages, not only because                                                               
of  the vast  learning  systems  which would  be  uncoded in  the                                                               
process,  but also  because  of the  enrichment  that could  take                                                               
place.  In  the 2020 census, Alaska also had  the most voting-age                                                               
Natives in the US, she imparted.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:42:13 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FIELDS  asked  for  more  information  about  how                                                               
understanding  in  different   languages  brought  about  greater                                                               
understanding in general.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. BLAKE compared it to how  travel helped one see things from a                                                               
different perspective  and allowed  one the  chance to  come home                                                               
with different ideas  about how to operate in  one's own country.                                                               
An example of a linguistic opportunity  would be how a place name                                                               
described not just one person  or one aspect, but something about                                                               
a  place that  could  be instructive:  "the  place dangerous  for                                                               
boating,"  or "the  place with  an abundance  of salmon/cockles,"                                                               
she  offered.   The titles  gave  exact references  to the  world                                                               
around people,  she stated, and  gave clues to what  people could                                                               
expect  when visiting  that place.   Connecting  to a  history of                                                               
what happened in a location was important as well, she added.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. MEDICINE  CROW said she was  in the process of  learning both                                                               
of her languages, a process  which has helped her understand more                                                               
about certain issues,  she said.  Changing "I love  you" with its                                                               
emphasis on the  way the speaker feels, to "You  are loved," with                                                               
its emphasis  on the speaker,  provided another way  of thinking,                                                               
she provided.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. BLAKE  added "mother" meant  "your mother's sisters,"  as the                                                               
person known as  an aunt also provided for a  person as their own                                                               
mother would.   Likewise,  there was no  word for  "cousin," only                                                               
"brother" and "sister."                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FIELDS  said the  variability  to  see things  in                                                               
another way could stand to  help all people, whether they learned                                                               
Alaska Native languages or not.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:50:09 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  BLAKE  pointed  out  the 229  recognized  tribes  in  Alaska                                                               
existing as government entities  were recognized before there was                                                               
ever  any  one  body  governing  the  state;  the  tribes  had  a                                                               
governance of their own.   Alaska Native people were protected as                                                               
people of color,  but also by the federal government  in terms of                                                               
political status, she stated.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS.  MEDICINE  CROW  added the  distinction  between  the  rights                                                               
afforded to Native peoples ought to  be taught in schools but was                                                               
too  often   not,  and  therefore  assumptions   were  made  that                                                               
everything about Native people "was  about race," when it was the                                                               
political status that was critical for understanding.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:54:35 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR ZULKOSKY asked  presenters to speak to  the opportunity for                                                               
an  improved  relationship  between   the  state  of  Alaska  and                                                               
federally recognized tribes therein.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS. MEDICINE  CROW replied that  Russia didn't have the  right to                                                               
sell Alaska,  and yet in the  Treaty of Session the  US agreed to                                                               
treat  Native Alaskans  with the  same  set of  rights as  Native                                                               
people down south.   Part of the daily practice of  the US was to                                                               
make   agreements  with   tribes;  this   was  rolled   into  the                                                               
Constitution and recognized by Congress.   Native peoples' rights                                                               
are inherent;  rights were not  granted to Native peoples  by the                                                               
US but recognized  by the US so there may  exist a government-to-                                                               
government relationship.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:01:57 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. BLAKE stated three ways to strengthen government-to-                                                                        
government relationship  were through consultation,  a "beautiful                                                               
opportunity to limit  the number of times" tribes  must appear in                                                               
court  regarding a  decision, as  the  state of  Alaska has  sued                                                               
Native people more  often than any other state in  the US, and is                                                               
consistently  challenging rights  of tribes;  through compacting,                                                               
an  agreement  entered  into  with   the  state  regarding  child                                                               
welfare, and in  which two or more people contract,  but in which                                                               
the tribe  is viewed as a  sovereign nation ("How you  get there,                                                               
we  recognize  you  know  best,"  says  the  government  in  this                                                               
instance); and through contracting.   Tribal healthcare in Alaska                                                               
is a beautiful example of compacting, she related anecdotally.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:08:04 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. MEDICINE  CROW added the  COVID-19 vaccine rollout,  in which                                                               
Alaska is  setting precedent in  our country, is a  great example                                                               
of  Tribal  healthcare at  work.    A  critical value  of  Native                                                               
cultures  is to  care for  the entire  community, she  added, and                                                               
this is exemplified with the vaccine rollout.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:10:06 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FIELDS  imparted several years ago  Indian Law and                                                               
Order Commission  had identified  tribal compacting as  a barrier                                                               
to  public safety,  specifically saying  when tribal  sovereignty                                                               
was  not  recognized,  domestic violence  perpetrators  were  not                                                               
brought  to justice.   The  state both  failed to  provide public                                                               
safety  resources  in rural  communities  and  at the  same  time                                                               
failed   to  recognize   communities'   own   ability  to   bring                                                               
perpetrators to  justice. He asked  for an elaboration vis  a vis                                                               
compacting on  this failure  to bring  down to  unacceptably high                                                               
rates of domestic violence and sexual assault.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. BLAKE  replied folks were  oftentimes reluctant to  move into                                                               
communities, but the Native concept of  care for the area and the                                                               
people  who  live there  was  deeply  rooted.   Limitations  were                                                               
recognized, but  the components of compacting  already existed so                                                               
base line  was already high in  terms of care.   Sometimes it was                                                               
better to  view from a  local standpoint rather than  a far-away,                                                               
paternalistic, standpoint, she added.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:14:23 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  MEDICINE  CROW  said  when  the state  failed  to  create  a                                                               
"formal,  friendly,  and   forever"  relationships  with  Alaskan                                                               
tribes, the state failed to govern.   In Public Law 280 (PL 280),                                                               
funding that ought  to go to tribes went to  the state and tribes                                                               
didn't  see any  benefit, she  offered  as an  example.   Someone                                                               
taking  a moose  out of  season  was noticed  more than  domestic                                                               
violence,  she stated.   She  asked what  was in  the way  of the                                                               
state  seeing   tribes  as  true  partners,   because  the  state                                                               
continued to fail tribes in terms of recognition and compacting.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:17:52 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  BLAKE   referenced  slide  13,   "Types  of   Alaska  Native                                                               
Organizations,"   which  lists   the  following:     229   Tribal                                                               
governments;  12  Alaska  Native Claims  Settlement  Act  (ANCSA)                                                               
regional  corporations;  ~195   ANCSA  village  corporations;  12                                                               
regional   Native   non-profit  associations/consortiums;   seven                                                               
statewide  Native  non-profit  organizations;  ~50  cultural  and                                                               
heritage  centers/museums; five  marine  mammal commissions;  one                                                               
Alaska  Native   bird  co-management  council;  and   one  Indian                                                               
reservation (Metlakatla).  She pointed  out that corporations and                                                               
tribes  collaborated  but  where  they got  their  authority  was                                                               
different  as tribes'  authority pre-dated  the constitution  and                                                               
corporations  were  distinctly different,  run  by  the state  of                                                               
Alaska.  She offered as  an example the 20+ drastically different                                                               
linguistic  groups operating  independently  in  terms of  tribal                                                               
systems that existed within Sealaska Heritage Institute.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. MEDICINE  CROW added while  Native corporations  were created                                                               
within state  law, and paid  taxes to  the state of  Alaska, they                                                               
were  constructs  of  federal  law still  being  shaped,  and  as                                                               
constructs  they still  had components  of  federal law  binding,                                                               
meaning not all pieces of  legislation had been implemented.  One                                                               
issue  was the  landless  issue; another  was  the blood  quantum                                                               
requirement, she stated.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:22:38 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.   BLAKE   restated   though  tribes   were   autonomous   and                                                               
independent, they  were also a  part of a greater  community, and                                                               
as  such  village  corporations  and  regional  corporations  had                                                               
fundamental relationships  with each one another.   She mentioned                                                               
ANCSA  corporations 70%  sharing of  revenue sharing  split among                                                               
regional  corporations   and  consequent   of  this   revenue  to                                                               
villages.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS.  MEDICINE  CROW  imparted  it  was  important  to  understand                                                               
ANCSA's  profit   sharing  when  it  came   to  natural  resource                                                               
development.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:27:33 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. BLAKE referenced slide 17 on  PL 280, which gave the state of                                                               
Alaska the right to exercise  federal authority concurrently with                                                               
tribes  over some  aspects of  criminal  and civil  jurisdiction.                                                               
Alaska had  one reservation  in Metlakatla, but  for the  rest of                                                               
the  state there  was no  reservation system,  she stated.     In                                                               
states  with reservation  systems in  place, the  tribe had  sole                                                               
jurisdiction  on the  reservation,  she imparted,  and the  state                                                               
would have  jurisdiction outside of  the reservation system.   In                                                               
Alaska there was  an unwillingness by state  to recognize tribes'                                                               
concurrent  jurisdiction,  which   led  to  frequent  litigation.                                                               
Successful compacting  would lead  to acknowledgement  of current                                                               
jurisdiction in communities, she added.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS.  MEDICINE CROW  stated funding  going through  a jurisdiction                                                               
which did  not provide  services was an  inhibitor for  tribes to                                                               
grow dynamic systems.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:31:41 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FIELDS referenced an  Alaska Daily News article in                                                               
which challenging  tribal sovereignty was litigating  on the side                                                               
of an abuser, which was heinous and needed to stop.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS. MEDICINE CROW said this was  what could happen when there was                                                               
no  true  partnership, and  tribes  had  to  bear the  burden  of                                                               
inequitable public  safety in communities resulting  in disparate                                                               
harm on Native peoples.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. BLAKE added  the state of Alaska lost most  cases which ended                                                               
up in  court, so unnecessary  litigation may  be a good  place to                                                               
start when looking for budgetary reduction.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:37:27 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  BLAKE  went  over  Alaska law  enforcement:    Alaska  State                                                               
Troopers,  Village/Tribal   Police  Officers   operating  through                                                               
sovereign tribes,  which was a  pilot program under  Senator Lisa                                                               
Murkowski,  and Village  Public Safety  Officers operated  by the                                                               
state  of Alaska  in  partnership  with one  of  the villages  or                                                               
tribes.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS.  MEDICINE  CROW  said  law  enforcement  was  an  example  of                                                               
contracting, and  hands were  tied.  She  urged the  committee to                                                               
look at law  enforcement from a compacting point of  view, as the                                                               
health  system  has  flourished,  to law  enforcement,  in  which                                                               
control was struggled over.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. BLAKE referenced ties to land  which dated back 10K+ years on                                                               
"Our Ways  of Life" slide.   The opportunity to connect  with the                                                               
land has never been broken, she  stated.  Native ways of life are                                                               
being chipped  away, she stated, but  the Native way was  to care                                                               
for future generations.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. MEDICINE  CROW clarified that  Native "ways of life"  was not                                                               
merely a lifestyle,  but a knowing, being, sharing,  and doing; a                                                               
comprehensive  way  of being  and  an  emotional, spiritual,  and                                                               
educational process.   The  strangling of  Native ways  cannot be                                                               
culturally appropriated,  but culturally appreciated,  she added.                                                               
People can be  taught to appreciate and be  grateful, she stated.                                                               
Learning to  look from a  "governing idea of abundance"  point of                                                               
view would shift  the whole paradigm, she stated,  but people are                                                               
not  there yet;  there was  a lot  to learn  from Native  ways of                                                               
life,  she said,  which was  very  important to  consider from  a                                                               
policy standpoint.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:47:30 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  BLAKE   emphasized  solutions  and  possibilities   for  all                                                               
Alaskans:    utilization  of  self-determination/self-governance,                                                               
federal/state/tribal governments partnering;  and the reimagining                                                               
of solutions with tribes at the table.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:50:05 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR ZULKOSKY reemphasized the  rollout of COVID-19 vaccinations                                                               
in Alaska.   With  tribal health organizations  at the  helm, all                                                               
Alaskans of  every background  were able to  be vaccinated  as an                                                               
example  of  how  the   acknowledgement  of  self-governance  and                                                               
ingenuity of a people can work to  the advantage of all.  It's an                                                               
example of what can be achieved, she stated.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. MEDICINE  CROW mentioned there were  incredible advocates for                                                               
compacting  in   the  state  of   Alaska  and  partnering   in  a                                                               
government-to-government    relationship   with    tribes   could                                                               
transform  a story  of failure  to  one of  success, which  would                                                               
enhance the lives of all.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:56:42 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no  further business before the  committee, the House                                                               
Special  Committee on  Tribal Affairs  meeting  was adjourned  at                                                               
9:57 a.m.                                                                                                                       

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